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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jan 4, 2011 8:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oh No!!! Not The Dentist

Huh. Can't quite relate to that topic. Anyone wanna talk childbirth? Ringo, Deb?

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Jan 4, 2011 8:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oh No!!! The baby's coming now!!

Sure - lets. I have not experienced the pain personally (obviously) but I've been there for my wife and two kids - in fact, delivered the second one myself in our bedroom. (Bless her, my wife is a fast worker.) I can tell you however - she made sounds in a voice I've never heard before or since, more scary than the wildest Dark Star. The landlord downstairs thought I was torturing her, from his expression. She had back labor, and the baby was breech - so there was all due haste, I always assume with divine intervention. I was there to "catch" - I cannot claim any great facility - and the paramedics arrived about 5 minutes later. The wife always says childbirth is akin to a b.m., only imagine pushing out a basketball.

I'd like to refute WT - I don't necessarily think that the "right" dentist will always have the magic to an easier time in the chair. I do think some people are more sensitive to dental pain than others. The right guy can make a difference, but some people just react differently to pain. I hate the dentist.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 4, 2011 12:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Oh No!!! The baby's coming now!!

Oh yeah, agreed; but the truth is, I am a MUCH bigger wimp than you or Jim, I can assure you, as can my wife, etc., etc.

Just an example, to get graphic, on the prostate thing, up until ten yrs ago, urologists thought that since the prostate wasn't well supplied with nerves a biopsy could be done without any pain killing procedures. After a few urologists had the procedure (seriously), they did more studies, and changed their minds. But only the new ones do it the "new way" (which involves pain relief at three levels: pills, gels, and one shot after the first two; with that done, it's painless). Docs that still do it the old way lead to patients, many of whom I know, that will NOT go back for this all impt test, cause it was so painful.

Back to dentists (hmmm, transitioning from one orifice [Rob?] to the other, eh?), the ones I have now use a numbing gel, prior to the needles, etc., etc., and thus, relative to ones I went to 20-30 yrs ago, it's almost pain free.

So, trust me, it's not that I am saying "don't get pain killers", it's just that with the right approaches, you defn don't need gas, or have to be worried about it. So, in fact, it'd be fine if the dentist said "hey, instead of all these other pain killing procedures, I'll give you gas".

Just wanted to make clear there are alternatives, and with those, no one really has to be worried about the pain per se. Trust me, I am really sensitive to pain, and that's what motivated me to avoid it. Agree that you might still have massive anxiety about the whole idea, teeth or prostate, but the pain can be dealt with. Generally.